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I feel a tear of joy in one eye, a tear of sadness in the other,I clench my teeth and wonder if it’s frustration,desperation or anger? I need to let it all out with a great exhale, as I watch our Union Govt tie itself in knots, over and over again! It’s all about the poor poor CBI!
Result of flexing and bending over to produce a “strong” and “credible” Lokpal Bill.
The Credibility of our elected representatives is surely at it’s lowest ebb and that I presume is the reason why each and every Institution is demanding that they be conferred autonomy.
From what I understood after yesterday’s cabinet meeting concluded, A Director Prosecution is to be appointed to keep prosecution insulated from investigation? Investigation is the perogative of the Police alone? And the Police force works independently? Since when?
Most of the times,investigating and the prosecuting bodies have been used as the long arm of the “party in power” And that is the “crux” of the problem. Mr S Yadav of the JD-U admitted at the Jantar Mantar that the CBI was a plaything of the “party in power” and likely it has been misused by almost all the Governments.
Always the probability of misuse is extreme in an era of coalition politics.Every organisation be it investigative or prosecuting does have a petty tyrant in a middle management level who appears to have the full blessing of top management and the Politicians.Is the Lokpal going to change all of that? It tickles my ribs to watch the whole country erupt in frenzy to what they belive is the best way out! Look at all the cases handled thus far be it the Laloo Prasad Yadav’s or the Mayawati or the Mulayam Singh’s…It’s almost always a volte face in the DA cases.It so happens that the Government in power for long as been the Congress.It enjoys the support of a few parties who at the drop of a hat threaten pulling back their support…It’s natural that for the “party in power” POWER and only POWER comes first!...people come next!
Flip flops are seen with all forms of Governance and Coalition Politics.The CBI was and will always be influenced by changing equations of the accused with the “party in power”!
The Supreme Court has attempted to wean anway these ills and sought to give autonomy to the CBI (Reference the Vineet Narain case 1998) http://cbi.nic.in/dop/judgements/excrpts.pdf “Clause 4 under Directions of the Court clearly states “The Central Government shall take all measures necessary to ensure that the CBI functions effectively and efficiently and is viewed as a non-partisan agency.” The word Non partisan has become the joke of this century! These directions are observed when in breach only and the single directive was restored by the government by making it aprt of the CVC Act http://cvc.nic.in/cvcact.pdf
My worry is the gross misuse of power and not just the misuse of the CBI.
The Gujarat government is in the dock over alleged misuse of power.What about the Rajasthan Government? Not to forget the States of Karnataka and Goa?...Although many commissions recommended to make investigations independent was anything ever implemented?
“Good policing is what the public wants but does not have. Good policing is policing that protects everyoneís person, property and rights. Good policing is designed to work in an impartial and efficient manner for the benefit of all, and not meant to be in service of just the elite few . In India today, illegitimate political interference in policing is routine. Some trends include manipulating police recruitment, promotion and transfer practices to suit political purposes,bringing political elements into crime control and investigation, or using the strong hand of the police to endanger communal harmony in the worst cases. The result is intense public dissatisfaction and a demonstrable deterioration in safety and security. This needs to change.Yet, there is a danger that too much autonomy can lead to blatant abuse of power,while too little can create a police that is pliant to the political/partisan interests of a powerful few.”
http://www.humanrightsinitiative.org/programs/aj/police/india/initiatives/compliance_with_supreme_court_directives.pdf
It is surely impossible to arrive at justice unless the investigation and the prosecution is impartial.However, the thought of giving “total autonomy” is fraught with unimaginable danger,in some instances worse than what we own currently! Could we imagine a DG Vanzara or an SPS Rathore handling autonomy? These men have the chutzpah to walk around in society with smugness of a conqueror.How can we expect any body maybe even those consisting of Civilians to be impartial?
It’s impossible for humans to deliver without favour. I have grave doubts that any interventions can be delivered impartially and am certain that humans no matter how deeply entrenched in the mire of righteousness cannot execute without the error of bias.
Sorry, wish I could without doubt say YES YES, because it is wrong to stand back and allow cruelty, abuse and victimisation but whose hands are clean enough to be the judge and jury.Intervention cannot be impartial and delivered without favour.A cop or a hoodlum with a gun wields POWER. It can be used to the hilt to harass or hurt anyone who dares to question! The tardy pace of of our judiciary is another matter and I am no expert in the matter to discuss.I have seen some quality judgements inspite of the delivery time!
Sorry, wish I could without doubt say YES YES, because it is wrong to stand back and allow cruelty, abuse and victimisation but whose hands are clean enough to be the judge and jury.Intervention cannot be impartial and delivered without favour.A cop or a hoodlum with a gun wields POWER. It can be used to the hilt to harass or hurt anyone who dares to question! The tardy pace of of our judiciary is another matter and I am no expert in the matter to discuss.I have seen some quality judgements inspite of the delivery time!
The point I’m driving home is the fact that most of our laws are already excellent! We have failed at the level of implementation.Our whole culture of administration and governance must be revamped.
The Lokpal is not the panacea to all ills.It has no magic wand that can eradicate Corruption.
We need to aspire to implement at our level some fundamental rights crucial for a safe society, such as the right to life, freedom from torture and slavery, alongside other crucial but at times less tangible rights such as privacy, religion, freedom of expression, movement and so on.Poverty and Illiteracy needs to be addressed.
Social and economic rights remain the least easy to agree on, in part due to to financial cost, and in part due to cultural differences, and so on networking sites and in the whole country it has formed a lively basis for debate within the civil and the political community.People take sides which they feel best explains their grievances!The hope that the introduction of a Bill will cure their ills!
The Lokpal is not the panacea to all ills.It has no magic wand that can eradicate corruption.
The Lokpal is not the panacea to all ills.It has no magic wand that can eradicate Corruption.
We need to aspire to implement at our level some fundamental rights crucial for a safe society, such as the right to life, freedom from torture and slavery, alongside other crucial but at times less tangible rights such as privacy, religion, freedom of expression, movement and so on.Poverty and Illiteracy needs to be addressed.
Social and economic rights remain the least easy to agree on, in part due to to financial cost, and in part due to cultural differences, and so on networking sites and in the whole country it has formed a lively basis for debate within the civil and the political community.People take sides which they feel best explains their grievances!The hope that the introduction of a Bill will cure their ills!
The Lokpal is not the panacea to all ills.It has no magic wand that can eradicate corruption.
Yes ,the CBI is critical but it’s constitution needs to be debated and quick fix solution with ever quicker guarantees can be detrimental to the whole issue of becoming another long arm to someone else!...maybe this time “not a party in power” I do not wish for the alleged Congress Bureau of Investigation to turn into the Civil Bureau of Investigation!
Friends it’s the same old whore in a new brothel! It will get used and abused…maybe for better rates!
It’s time for some Hope-Pal! not just the Lokpal...
Friends it’s the same old whore in a new brothel! It will get used and abused…maybe for better rates!
It’s time for some Hope-Pal! not just the Lokpal...
Super write up..all the views, which i believe, every like minded person will share , has been so well put up. i congratulate you.
ReplyDeletelets understand CBI. yes it has often and more acted as a body guard of the government but still it has an important function (it is different whether it is doing or not). Yet to be fair to it, the whole machinery is NOT devoted only to protecting the government. it is involved in duties which can not & SHOULD NOT be subjected to public discussions. It should not be controlled by a person.
besides even in other countries like Britain MI-6 is reporting to government and it should.
so, in essence agreeing with you, i feel that CBI cannot come under Lokpal. why- because, as pointed by you, Lokpal, at the end of the day, is a human being (that too an indian human being) and an important department which is involved in internal security can not report to a person. besides, for its smooth functioning, inf. gathering, CBI has to use funds some times in , what we call, undeclared ways. nothing wrong in it. but the moment it comes under Lokpal,, it becomes a machinery which is subjected to regular scrutiny. that is not the way.
and most important , why should we blindly trust Anna and his team. what is the guarantee that his people would not succumb to lust of power? then will it make any difference to CBI?
better, let it remain as it is. if there is a problem with its work, approach the ministry and court but for heaven's sake, dont overwhelm the system by introducing an unwanted and unwarranted change.
Lady ... you sure know how to drive a point. Well written and researched I say. Totally agree and believe in what you say "The point I’m driving home is the fact that most of our laws are already excellent! We have failed at the level of implementation.Our whole culture of administration and governance must be revamped."
ReplyDeleteYou couldn't be more right ... lets accept we have failed at the level of implementation and honestly in my POV I don't see a change happening in that department ... which is sad ... but ... I guess it's the real deal.
Last not the least ... keep up the blog notes.
I agree ur thoughts.Ultimately it depend on Execution of Laws.
ReplyDeleteAll Indian Laws are strong,But failuring in Execution.
I agree totally with your precise observations. You hit the nail on the head when you say that it is not lack of law but lack of will to implement them that is the root cause of the problem. Lesser said about the CBI, the better. This particular organization has the most unenviable task on hand. Damned if they do, Damned if they don't. Unless someone like TN Seshan heads it and exercises its true authority, I see no redemption :(
ReplyDeleteOn whether it should be under Lokpal or under the Govt control? If these are the choices, absence of a better mechanism, I rather it is under Lokpal. I trust him/her more than the Government who is to be watched. Better still is CBI becoming something (in letter and spirit) an organization like Election Commission. Until then C(raving for) B(etter) I(ndia)
To start with compliments for the blog and lucid writing so that it can be easily understood and intent is not lost in content. For the administrative control of CBI, its a lengthy and legal discussion, but certainly it can't b FULLY automated. Also we have seen many cases, which are not directly political, the CBI has failed to deliver (Aarushi Murder case), the government who is controlling CBI now failes to pull up CBI for lax investigation because it uses the CBI for its own power game. Hence CBI needs to out of FULLY govt clutches but not FULL free bird
ReplyDeleteI certainly dislike CBI been controlled by government, but shall certainly oppose to give control of CBI to certain body who is not accountable to people of India directly and /or who are not elected by the people of India. But here comes the issue of Government, which since past till now has shown CBI is been molested bu the Government for petty political brownie points. I would not know exact feasibility of my suggestion, But if CBI Administrative control is provided to Parliament (or narrow aspect having equal representation from govt and opposition) along with Judiciary - with CJI being the Chairman. With this there is possibility of neutralizing the bias of politicians neither the ruling party nor the opposition party can claim majority power in selection and VETO is with Judiciary / CJI who has limited tenure to the office.
Lets discuss with wider POV on the blog as and when you receive. Thanks - Jemin P
awesome gratitude
DeleteExcellent all the thoughts and frustrations shared, the lokpal drama in nut shell....
ReplyDeleteHi Ushy,
ReplyDeleteI am not going to start by congratulating you. I agree with each every word written in this article.
What we have in this country today is complete cynicism. Why is it so? What is missing ? Rule of Law has been replaced by "Show me the face I will show you the rule."
Power is enhanced if one can manipulate those who can cause damage & CBI certainly can cause damage to all if it functions independently, hence the need for control.
Corruption Free Society is Utopia. It never be achieved, what can be achieved is high retributive costs for those who indulge in corruption and this can only happen when the investigation is conducted without interference or directional control from government.
Prosecution is completely dependent on the results of the investigations done, conviction happens on the basis of these results when tested in a court of law and proved beyond all reasonable doubt. Trials are delayed due to extenuating circumstances created for the benefit of the accused.
The inflection point has been reached in India of today where the investigations will have to be conducted free of all encumbrances, regardless of what the government may want or suffer as a consequence this freedom to CBI.
There is absolutely no logical reason for government to retain control of CBI and further if we implement our existing laws without fear or favor Lokpal will become redundant if before it is passed.
Sincerely
Anil Kohli
Hahaha...excellent Mataji, especially, **admiring the same whore in a different brothel** - lovely euphemism!! . Your exceptional blog is akin to that of a painter being crucified by his subject, painter here being Anna and the subject here being CBI.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I will deviate slightly from the issue of CBI and comment on the entire movement itself. I am bound to get persecuted for being singularly hypocritical of a mass movement, but then that is the whole point of a debate or blog, isn't it.
Though the core of your immaculate blog is the debate on inclusion / exclusion of **CBI** from JLP, a larger debate on the sanctity of this Anna Movement needs pondering. I might receive flak for this perspective, but, the subject which is the Anna movement itself reminds me of the last line from a famous quote by Shakespeare : **full of fire and fury, signifying nothing!**.
A huge amount of apprehension entails the JLPB movement as such. The desire to and want of a JLPB is not only imperative but imminent. The desperation more so since the Nation has been flung to a nook with vitriolic scams amounting to uncountable figures emerging by the minute, yet, no provision available in the current text of laws that could possibly bind them for the rest of their lives. The Congress led Government, with diverse power centers, undertook to loot the Country with pomp and flair with total disdain of the Opposition Political Parties in general and the Voting Public in particular. That a reprisal was brewing and awaiting to erupt at any given moment is needless to say. That the conduit for this eruption came in the name of one Anna Hazare is a coincidence or a deliberate subterfuge is a point to moot. While I don’t want to bifurcate my personal perception on the entire movement, especially when it has concluded at a juncture where tentative political amicability has been obtained to most of its demands, I do want to emphatically mention that the entire logic of the movement dwells in skepticism and suspicion.
Most importantly, the ‘Lessons Learned’ from this huge movement is that *a scary precedent* has been initiated whereby any civilian can instigate a anti-government movement thereby endangering the very ethos, the very fabric of parliamentary democracy. It directly questions the supremacy of the Constitution. An agitation of this magnitude has resulted in more demerits than merits. An open threat by Team Anna has already been announced that in any eventuality, a similar movement will be ushered at will if it does not meet the parameters of compromise of a handful of people masquerading as the voice, brain, thought and sensibility of the 1.2 billion Indians. This is totally unacceptable.
Team Anna neither do have the fundamental right nor the terminal endorsement of being the representatives of the 1.2 billion Indians on Issues that perhaps might be bothersome to them but not to a large extent of the others whom they assume to represent. This movement itself would have generated an overall 20% following, which when translated into votes, would shamefully represent 4 seats in Parliament!
Indians must take serious time and ponder on the Anna Movement. It is undoubtedly anti-establishment and akin to anarchy. We are not a autocratic country like the Middle East or other East European states wherein such rebellion was imminent to overthrow their theocratic rulers. India is an elected democracy and we, the people, the voters are sponsors of electing those representatives whom we deem qualified to represent us for our causes. If and when they falter, we have the right to show them the door by ballot. That is is the correct and appropriate way to address non-productive rule and not rebellion, be in Gandhian or otherwise.
Upholding Democracy in its homogeneous sanctity is of primordial importance, significance and the need of the hour!
My dear Prash
ReplyDeleteYeah thank you very much for your comments!
Always look forward to it!
Imagine someone like Ms Bedi saying now we need a law to Protect CBI...Its kinda ridiculous coz we are soon gonna need a Law to protect the Lokpal!
"painter being crucified by his subject, painter here being Anna and the subject here being CBI." is exactly what i have intended!.Spot on!
Hey Anil
ReplyDeleteBrilliant...just loved what u have shared!Thank you!
"Corruption Free Society is Utopia. It never be achieved, what can be achieved is high retributive costs for those who indulge in corruption and this can only happen when the investigation is conducted without interference or directional control from government."
Wish I live to see the light of the day when there is some form of simple and accountable implementation of existing laws rather than dragging on Draconian stuff the burden of which very are empowered to carry!
Hey Sinu
ReplyDeletethank you for running By!;-)
Hey Rising Gladiator
ReplyDeleteWhat a nick...my compliments! thank you for your opinions.Look forward to many more.
"To start with compliments for the blog and lucid writing so that it can be easily understood and intent is not lost in content." Now these words touch my heart because that is one of my intentions of putting down simplified blogs for every person to understand the nitty gritty!
Do keep sharing!
Thank you Suresh
ReplyDeleteShort but pointed comments!
Yeah I like nailing in issues and opinions!
Love the acronym partUntil then C(raving for) B(etter) I(ndia)
Keep sharing please!
Thank you Puzar for running by and sharing!
ReplyDeleteRobby
ReplyDeleteLots of gratitude for your highly motivating words.
Humour is a huge connect but to get seriously funny its an art and you and me share that
Its because of friends including you, that i love to write more and more.
Lots of gratitude for sharing
My Dear Jai
ReplyDelete"why should we blindly trust Anna and his team. what is the guarantee that his people would not succumb to lust of power? then will it make any difference to CBI?"-- Some bunch of people form a so called Civil Society and just take over the reigning systems? it's ridiculous...Agreed there are flaws but this is SURELY not the way i see as being forward!
" for heaven's sake, dont overwhelm the system by introducing an unwanted and unwarranted change."--We are unable to handle too many complexities and this damn JLPB is only gonna make matters worse...Sufficient time and deliberations must decide what is gonna be and NOT deadlines alone
Its Pathetic to see blackmail and arm-twisting and veiled threats in a so called democracy!
Waaooo Ushy that was deep. Bravo
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it, Ushy... The problem is in the implementation. It may seem that the people are rallying behind Anna, but it's just that people are plain frustrated at the current level of corruption. Now that the ball has been set in motion, hope our political leadership rises to the occasion and delivers a decent bill.
ReplyDeleteHey Ushy,
ReplyDeleteThe CBI is under government control. But I sincerely agree with you, I don't think it should be an independent body; it may be dangerous because of the amount of power it would enjoy. Transferring any wing of the agency under Lokpal will adversely impact the investigations that the CBI is meant to handle.
Why not provide CBI a constitutional status on the lines of the Election Commission of India? Wouldn’t that be ideal or should the agency be given greater independence like the comptroller and auditor general of India?
Great Blog-post Ushy
ReplyDeleteI agree with the balanced perspective that you have used to convey the message in a bottle
My View is quite contrary to my fellow commentators
A The Comments portray that the reason for no or wrong implementation of laws are The Neta's or the Prashashan
Wrong
The real culprit are,
A *THE BLOATED LAZY JUDICIARY
B HIGHLY GREEDY LIARS( I refuse to call them lawyers)
C Vested interests of unscrupulous Chartered accountants
D Consultants
and
E touts& posers like Sohail Hindustani( with pictures hanging on wall with neta's )
B That India is a corrupt country , which is
Rubbish
India is as corrupt as Vatican is Hindu Rashtra
My examples
#VenuSpeak Formula of Quantum Corruption.
Quantum Corruption = Open Market Price of Goods - Controlled / Subsidized price of Goods * 20 / 100
This holds good in case of electricity, water , LPG , Petroleum products , Health Services , Education , Shelter
People in India who travel in SUV's like Pajero Rant about rise of Petrol price by Ra 0. 54 naye paise or 9 Anna's :-)
People who Travel by Kingfisher Airlines Howl when Rail Fare is increased
People who say Hobey Na Cholbey Na
Don't want to pay Ra 1 increase in Power Tariff
Though they may pay 2k for bed charges at burning tinderbox Boutique Hospitals, but won't pay Ra 100 to the Doctor in Government hospitals so that facilities can be increased.
The root cause of corruption in India is subsidized prices to Rich people resulting in scarcity for poor.
People wan't everything like Free Domino's Pizza
They want to get Gas for Ra 300 instead of Ra 700 like they get free pizza
when they deliberately call 1800-11-1123 Dominos and order 6 Pizza's
In Trichur, Kerala in Thekke madom on Trichur Pooram Day
At Kalighat Kolkata, on Saptami Day
At Chitli Kabar near Red Fort Dilli on 115th August
At Tripolia Jaipur on Teej Festival at 3.30 pm when teej ki sawari arrives
At T Nagar next toBalamandir Memorial Hall on 17th December , When Madras Music Fsetival is held
Or At Girgaum on Dahi Handi Day
:-) Smart A$$e$
How can it be solved
1 Food Security Bill via food stamps or cash for the value which will enable the poor to purchase the grains from any source rations or market
2 Education By RTE where stamps will be given, soon no kid in India will have to travel more than 2 kilometers to go to school. No school could admit a kid of 20 kilometers away denying neighborhood kid. The compulsion will kill the racket and premium and donation.
3 Mining Act Jharkhand will get money for its manganese( Not Maharashtra for Tata Steel) Coal( Not west Bengal for Coal India Ltd , Assam & Mumbai for Crude Oil ( Not Uttarakhand for IOC)
4 Land Acquisition Bill. The Builder buys via Thugs, Goondas , Land Sharks land at cheap sells to Builder , Industrialist , Government ( Bhatta Parsaul, Singur, Nandi Gram , Posco. ) All profit but poor farmer loses his only asset and source of livelihood
5 MNREGA JNURM NHAI GOLDEN QUADRILATERAL PROJECT, EAST WEST CORRIDOR, SHAR SAC , DOT C-Dac have benefited the people .
6 The reason for what we are blogging and not crying like Yanks Brits & Italians is a poorly paid Dr Y V Reddy ( Yes he saved the nation) There are people like Sreedharan Nair. Neta's do work, (no one can tell you better than me, been there done that )Pay and employ people for productive work not Janlokpal.
7 Consumer Grievance Re-dressal scheme uses the same existing machinery , magistrates, sarpanch, gram pradhan, won't employ additional force like Lokpal would.
What ails India that is Bharat
ReplyDeleteThe British have left us 63 1/2 years ago
The Judges in Courts still behave like Laat Sahebs
They Take Summer Holidays
The Neta's & Prashashan are burning midnight candle over Lokpal Bill & its fine tuning, & our judges are already planning their winter breaks, Christmas parties.
The Liar's still wear white pant shirts & black coats
They take long summer holidays as though they were descendants of Queen Victoria
While Ruchika case still undecided for 20 years
Bhopal case 25 years
Uphaar Case 14 years
Everyone here must have seen No One Killed Jessica .. NDTV and the so called *corrupt media* Barkha Dutt compelled a retrial
Manchanda Case
Bhatnagar Case
C'mon I can quote 1500 such cases
The Indian Judiciary is the *MOST CORRUPT PILLAR* of 4 pillars of Democracy
Parliament , Excecutive , Press , Judiciary
I am making this statement with a risk of Contempt of Court and libel & blasphemy suit.
http://www.google.co.in/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=how+many+cases+are+pending+in+Indian+courts&oq=how+many+cases+are+pending+in+Indian+courts&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=243579l257817l4l259082l59l36l0l13l13l5l2699l21242l7-1.2.7l13l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=40f04f0c97159462&biw=800&bih=509
3.13 crore pending cases check for yourself read the 1st link the result of an RTI
Under Consumer Protection Act 1986
Yours truly has won 5 cases pleading himself in 15 days
Now it takes years
around 30 lakh cases are pending many for over 1 year
How come I am so sure ?
Just 2 examples
BCCI v/s Prasar Bharti ( Television broadcast rights issue settled in 30 days)
Krishna Godavari Basin Gas from RIL to Reliance power the rate at which Gas to be supplied from lower court to SC in 4 years
I rest my case
Decide friends ,
Bureaucrat, Neta's or Judiciary are to be reigned ?
I have not raised some known cases of judicial breach of reference by some Sitting SC Judges based on their political leanings, nor Afzal Guru etc . Not relevant here.
That is too direct
I am too small a fry to raise that
Bache jo palney hain :-)
Aila .. Itna Lamba :-)
proof of pudding
ReplyDeletePrasar Bharti case
http://www.google.co.in/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=tussle+on+broadcasting+rights+between+bcci+and+prasar+bharti+fast+tracked&oq=tussle+on+broadcasting+rights+between+bcci+and+prasar+bharti+fast+tracked&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1049213l1075786l7l1076217l101l98l0l86l2l4l1855l16587l6-1.4.6l11l0&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=40f04f0c97159462&biw=800&bih=509
http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=Tendency+of+pendency+of+case+in+consumer+courts+in+india&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Fkeyword%2Fpendency&ei=E93xToCKCMfwrQe_wZ3hDw&usg=AFQjCNF_AIdE-tDWMR7N3pL4ft8L0M5aSQ&sig2=kRoE0dAQUiawyWX-a2YiIg Tendency of Pendency ToI Lucknow Consumer forum
ReplyDelete30 million pending court cases in India
ReplyDeletehttp://www.google.co.in/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=pending+court+cases+in+various+courts+in+India&oq=pending+court+cases+in+various+courts+in+India&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=154058l176656l8l177129l50l35l2l0l0l7l5829l30230l7-2.2.7l12l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=94f68132b25cdab4&biw=766&bih=364
1 Conclusion Judicial Reforms to improve higher & faster conviction with hefty Singapore style swift punishment. The Burning Rod visible to the child is better than the same put on his Ar$* to brand them like cattle .. Once the rod is felt the fear is gone .. so fear psychosis works more
ReplyDelete2 As Mr Lyngdoh has been recomendding Electoral reforms . Funding of elections will remove lobby corruption and graft cases amopng politicians
3 Better pay packets equivalent to private seector in Government bodies so that the will to be corrupt doesnt exist and there is no motivation to be corrupt
In 1988 I had a scooter , my clients came by scooter
Now I by Maruti , client by Scorpio SUV Honda BMW, I am not at the same level.. I kinda feel belittled
There must be no ways that someone could be taken for a goa/ Phuket trip in Phuket , or served O La La la beer or Dom Perignon. If I can afford why I would have it from Client ? ( I dont ok :-) )
4 Transparent e-governance where everything is open in public eye
no 1st come 1st serve
Remember the financial wizard scams friday in Mumbai buy at BSE Dalal street Monday in Jaipur sell jaipurstock exchange vanish
See social networking , google twitter and facebook has helped us share this
5 GST , NEW TAX CODE , COMPANIES ACT , CA / PR / ADVERTISEMENT / PRESS / JUDICIAL / ADMINISTRATION / POLITICVIAN CODE OF ETHICS
Jai Hind :-)
Ushy Maatey You do generate ssome churning in my medula oblongata :-) Woooooooooooooot Poooooooooooof
Ciao :-)
Its one thing to know what you are against and quite another to know what you are for.A lot of status quoists fail to suggest a better alternative and kind of follow the current popular fashion among intellectuals to criticize the bill to the joy of the ruling class and caring little to put forward a well reasoned and logical critique.A sentence or two here and there in isolation is certainly not the best way to go about. The mounting paranoia has much to do with our instict to overcelebrate the "democracy" we live in ,if i may use the word for the system.If we look around and see how mch of democracy we really enjoy it wont be difficult to conclude that its more of a propaganda than what it should mean in true sense of the term.
ReplyDeleteNobody contests the arguement that poverty illiteracy and other evils should be done with but to link these with bureaucratic corrruption is utterly naive and clouded thinking.dO the rich and literate not face bureaucratic corruption in this country?
AS for the frankenstein monster that the lokpal is made out to be my information is that it only seeks to insulate the investigations from the political interferences it is subjected to via adminstrative control exercised through transfers ,postings, suspensions etc.at present in the hands of ruling party.
AN independent prosecutor is of little use in absence of independent investigation.IF CBI puts up too weak a case to prosecute it defeats the purpose of independent prosecutor.
Also misuse of CBI is not only throgh tampered investigation but also through arbitrary manner in which it takes up the cases.Those in power decide aginst whom the CBI is to be let loose and whom to relieve.And PROSECUTOR DOESNT COME IN PICTURE HERE.
now as to who will watch the watch dog ,my information is that its through transparent functiong by public disclosure of information,financial audits and other such provisions .Also the panel to appoint lokpal is broad based with suggestions invited from public,and many more safeguards can be buiit in.
ALso its not as if it is a supercop.At most it can investigate and prosecute but the trial will go on in regular courts.SO it doesnt sit on judgement .
AND for the corruption in judiciary the drafters of the bill have never opposed to keep it seperately in judicial acccountability bill provided its strong enough.
Its nobodys case that it is the panacea to all the ills.OF course there can never be a pancea.But the question is shud we give up our efforts only coz there can't be a panacea.
Mata !! I love this article.. coz here you dont rant but present facts which I find hard to disagree :)
ReplyDeleteLovely written and though you dont agree with the Anna Movement, you have kept the content relevant to the topic !!! Awesome ..you must have exercised a lot of self control !! lols
am greatly enlightened by the article. very informative ..
Keep this your style :)
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Mathew Binsu Robinson
Good and Lucid stuff.... Keep it up...
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ReplyDeleteThank you but Anonymity speaks volumes!
Gratitude for speaking volumes!
Will appreciate views better with an Identity!
Mathew
ReplyDeleteThank you!....Don't rant? hehe thats a bit overdone dear!
Glad you understand the research behind presenting facts and figures!
Do keep coming back and do share with Friends!
Hey Premish
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Yen bro
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Lots of Info
Thank you for all your good wishes and support!
Hey Paul J
ReplyDeleteThank you so very much for summing up the IDEA behind the BLOG.
Why not provide CBI a constitutional status on the lines of the Election Commission of India? Wouldn’t that be ideal or should the agency be given greater independence like the comptroller and auditor general of India?
Exactly what I have expressed aS a View.
Your words of motivation and the fact that you share is truly appreciated.Thank you
madam...i argued on merits...and whats there in name...unless anonymity makes me any less dearer to you.
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ReplyDeleteFinally managed to read, as I am rather struck at the airport as my flight has been delayed - maybe, I should start a fast to get autonomy for Civil Aviation Ministry? Maybe that will help Air India in the long run? If that's the trend, then more things needs to be done and here are my wishlist - afterall, it's a year end and maybe Santa could surprise me?
* Get autonomy to Civil Aviation.
* I have long given up how the tax is computed, so let's get that out of government as well.
* We have guys who often manages defense without an iota of knowledge as to what defense agencies really require!
* Oh! I still haven't got my voter ID, ration card and many other government cards - can we simplify this? And why do we need so many cards?! Pray - Aadhar is asking for information and someone telling me that one more new card is in the offing!
* ... and there are many more!
Get the wind?
As a lay man, who could potentially fall into the "seeda saada" type (maybe not the aam admi), I don't really bother about CBI or anyone else. Why should i? My name is Raj and not Raja! A single "a" (not the adults only one) can do wonders sometimes!
So, what's all these tamashas enacted by the self proclaimed "pretender" for the father of the nation and his coterie is doing? Take it my way, including every "." and "," and implement that. From when have we got that done like that? We don't have the patience for evolution, even after waiting for 40 over years of this Lokpal? Or, is there a different agenda here?
Nah, I am neither Congress, nor am I a BJP. Remember, I am just a seeda-saada admi waiting at the Airpot!
If ever someone makes the mistake of asking me what will work - bring the President model of rule in this country. Let him have his own team of high calibre team, who has experience in handling the miistry they are supposed to handle. Let the Parliament be just an advisor and provide the governance checks. Make this change at the GOI level and also at all States. You will see, efficiency coming into the picture and corruption starts to come down.
If nothing can be done - outsource the government - to someone who can manage the economy. Remember, you outsource what you are not capable of doing! I do not see any leader in the country, who's capable of doing what they are elected for - now or on the near future - as long as all these coalitions are gonna stay!
I think, I shall stop this!
By the way, wonderful article. Keep writing!
Best,
Raj aka Prince ... still waiting at the airport!
Thank you very much Raj
ReplyDeleteSounds a pathetic state of Governance! From all the situations you have mentioned!
Grateful for having gone through.
Keep grazing by!
Great post- agree so much with what you say.
ReplyDelete"The Lokpal is not the panacea to all ills.It has no magic wand that can eradicate corruption." Exactly! Problem is that the supporters of the movement seem to think so.
We would do better to think of ways to ensure that the existing laws, which are-as you say - quite excellent, are implemented properly.
Perhaps we should also give some thought to how the mentality of people can be changed so they will not be so dispose to be corrupt? Some changes in our education system, etc (long term solutions) may be needed.
Loved every bit of what u have written..An old whore in new Brothel is the most apt caption under the circumstances..Although Lokpal is not an end to all the ills in the society but then a beginning has to be made or else possibly we may go on and on without a solution in sight..At least with the agitation and Lokpal some one of semblance shall prevail (Hopefully !!)and the stark naked dance of the politicos shall be more in "Private" against "Public " as we all see now..Great Piece Dr.. Looking forward to a new one...
ReplyDeleteHey Rajesh
ReplyDeleteFeed back means a lot to me...Thank you.
Yes Lokpal is not a cure...However a battle against corruption is essential.
Sure;y would pen more...Thank you again for the motivation!
Hi Manju
ReplyDeleteLots of gratitude for your opinions.
Agree wholly when u say "Perhaps we should also give some thought to how the mentality of people can be changed so they will not be so dispose to be corrupt? Some changes in our education system, etc (long term solutions) may be needed."
Our Education systems and governance are the two main dens of all ill gotten wealth being stored!
All cleansing must begin from there!
Do keep coming back in here!..Thank you again
Dilip Cherian's comments:
ReplyDeleteA fantastic piece and so brilliantly written which puts together many issues which have actually crippled our system or have made it so very mediocre.
And issues that require enormously wider debate. Missing Unfortunately!
It refreshes what former CBI Director US Misra once said about the “CBI autonomy being a myth” where he had cited long drawn process where-by permission was always sought to proceed against any corrupt senior public servant. Not only did this compromise the much needed secrecy to succeed but in the end CBI was often made to wait, sometimes for years… and sometimes even refused permission to proceed any further.
The observations on the Lokpal are sad but true at the core. Like the Constitution of India we can have some fantastic well written manuals; but what matters is the way we interpret and implement it. The Constitution of India has provisions for individual of every class, creed and culture of a sovereign, socialist, independent republic. But just see where we are and what we have done with it….
Today deep rooted frustration is finding its way out in many ways. Your blog is one brilliant example. Others spring out now, some secretly and yet others like the Anna movement rather virulently.
Unless we either reform or recast what we already have, to make them work, we may end up with equally dangerous solutions that are new.
Hey DC
ReplyDeleteLots of gratitude for sharing.
Loved the word"Virulent" and that best describes all whats happening now!
Do keep coming back and taking a peep at some of the Honest views I have expressed!
Nice article. I appreciate your work. Thank you.
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Superb write-up. I agree with one issue you have raised: The Lokpal is not the panacea that it is being claimed to be. Corruption has 2 parties - the bribe taker as well as the bribe giver. So long as there are people ready to give a bribe there will be people willing to take a bribe. The stronger controls will undoubtedly have some impact, but simultaneously, people will find more innovative ways to escape and avoid detection. During prohibition, Booze was readily available despite strict controls and laws. The case of corruption will be very much similar to that, methinks.
ReplyDeleteYes we have failed in almost all areas of implementation. But who is to blame? We are - the people of India. And it is not about elections etc, it is all about our behaviour towards our civic responsibilities. If our leaders were not doing anything - what were we doing? Why the passive acceptance? Because it is more convenient to be silent? Why pay a bribe, for instance? Why not just pay up the regular fine of 250/- to the traffic cop, for instance?The fine is because you have broken a law... hence, it is more a case of irresponsible civic behaviour. And that is why we need a movement like Annaji's IAC: not for the government but for us, our awakening.
I was taken aback on my visit abroad... people there dont behave that way. No bikes or cars in places they shouldn't be, clean environs - no garbage thrown about, decent road sense, etc etc.... It is just that we are bad citizens. And we are getting our jusr desserts!
I blog at reflectionsvvk.blogspot.com, and have also penned a few similar thoughts to yours @ http://reflectionsvvk.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-lokpal-solution.html?spref=bl.
Regards,
Vishal V. Kale
very informative and intriguing..
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I liked the Craving for Better India acronym in one of the comments..